Really Is That So: Oliver North: War without spin:
When anyone begins to use "the twisting of words, the misrepresentation of facts and circumstances, and flat out lies," that is where I say enough. If Bush has lied I condemn it, but I am yet to be convinced that he has been so decietful.
Partisianship on either side should stop at the water's edge, do you disagree?
A patriot by dictionary definition is: One who loves, supports, and defends one's country. I agree with your description as well "My love for my country is demonstrated by fighting for the principles on which we base our liberty. Sometimes that means fighting an external foe, but sometimes it means defending those principles against attack from within." It makes a good argument for my desire to fight liberalism. I would love to hear your argument why liberalism is the faction who is "fighting for the principles on which we base our liberty." I've personally always thought that that was what conservatism was all about. From where I stand, liberalism is one of the main threats to our liberty.
Kitzi also said...
"1) How was the invasion of Iraq defending our country?
Why must someone have a 'partisan/political' agenda simply because his opinion is different from yours? Why is Pat Buchanan opposed to the war? For partisan/political reasons? "
Did you miss the whole part where I talked about valid objections? Are you denying that some people stand to gain politically by the Iraq War being portrayed in the worst possible light? I would say that invading Iraq defends our country in that it makes one less place where hatred towards and plotting against Americans is a way of life. To what do you credit the lack of additional terrorist attacks in the years following 9/11?
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You said: "I would say that invading Iraq defends our country in that it makes one less place where hatred towards and plotting against Americans is a way of life. To what do you credit the lack of additional terrorist attacks in the years following 9/11?"
Are you absolutely serious with this? I'm dumbfounded. Did you not pay attention to the 9/11 commission stating that there was absolutely no evidence linking al qaeda to Saddam Hussein except that there was one terrorist camp in a portion of northeast Iraq that Hussein didn't have control over (too close to the Iran border, in the northern no-fly zone, and too close to the Kurdish lands). Bin Laden hated Saddam Hussein. Saddam was a secular ruler, and thus an enemy to Bin Laden's goals of setting up a trans-muslim theocracy.
I would put the credit to the lack of further terrorist attacks on American home soil to a) our invasion of Afghanistan (you know, the place where al qaeda actually was, b) the heightened awareness of the terrorist threat against us leading to increased funding and powers of the federal government and its security forces (Dept. of Homeland Security, etc.).
And the idea that Iraq is one less place where America is hated and plotted against is laughable. It is a failed state where everyday people who previously just wanted to go about their lives in peace are finding reasons to pick up a gun and attack Americans in uniform.
As to Bush lying to get us into the war. Go watch the documentary "Uncovered: The War on Iraq". It isn't a piece of political propoganda like what Michael Moore puts out, but instead is a series of interviews with about 20 CIA agents, weapons inspectors, middle east specialists, army generals, and career diplomats. Very enlightening.
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